LAMP modules discontinued?

servicioexpreso 2020-03-03 18:54:26 UTC #1

Keywords: LAMP/MAMP/WAMP - Google Cloud Platform - How to - Other
Description:
Today, with stack 7.3.15-0 I noticed that there is no more links for modules and actually no way to find such link at all. Example, link https://bitnami.com/stack/lamp/modules now redirect to https://bitnami.com/stack/lamp where is no more modules to display.

Did Bitnami stoped development of modules?

michiel 2020-03-04 09:26:37 UTC #2

Hi @servicioexpreso,

Yes, LAMP modules active development of LAMP modules has been discontinued. It should be possible to install the Linux Modules for XAMPP, but that's not a tested solution so we can't guarantee it to work.

Regards,
Michiel

servicioexpreso 2020-03-04 12:51:56 UTC #3

Hi @michiel,

Thanks for reply.

As soon as I saw how VMware purchased Bitnami, I was clear how something like this will be soon. So, D-Day has come. Previously I also started topic about Bitnami changes vs lack of support for Always Free Google program, but now, that is final (obviously).

Nothing else here to be done. I'm going to OpenLiteSpeed.

Good Luck.

michiel 2020-03-05 10:16:17 UTC #4

Hi @servicioexpreso,

Nothing else here to be done. I'm going to OpenLiteSpeed.

First of all, I'm sorry to hear that. Regarding discontinuing LAMP module support, I think my reply might have given the wrong impression. As LAMP and XAMMP are very similar solutions we have decided to discontinue support for LAMP modules while maintaining and testing them for XAMMP. That said, it should be possible to install a XAMMP module on top of LAMP even though that specific use case is not tested.

Regards,
Michiel

jloramas 2020-03-05 13:19:34 UTC #5

Hi @servicioexpreso,

At Bitnami we constantly work on evolving our products to support new solutions and formats of distribution to improve our free community catalog.

In this process, as XAMPP and LAMP are very similar solutions, the team has decided to focus his efforts in certifying modules on XAMPP instead of on both solutions. By certifying I mean the modules are automatically tested on top of XAMPP before they are released, and the other way around, before releasing a new XAMPP version, the modules are tested on top of it.

That said it is unlikely that a module fails its installation on top of LAMP, but we cannot certify it to you. That's the reason for the removal of the modules link from the LAMP web page.

I think we did not a good job by just removing the LAMP modules page without further explanation, and I'd like to thank you for your time in writing us about it. I'll create a task for adding a proper modules page redirecting the users to the XAMPP modules.

I'm sorry to hear that you have decided to move to other solutions, but I understand your concerns.

Best regards,

Jose L. Oramas
Engineer Manager

servicioexpreso 2020-03-05 21:57:28 UTC #6

Hi @michiel and @jloramas,

I'm sorry if I left bad impression with my reply, but my intention was exact same as before in other topic(s) where I underlined concerning about lack of support for startup business and small (personal) site owners. Couple of companies (here is talk about Google Cloud Platform, specifically) support such kind of clients by offering basically LIFETIME FREE HOSTING.

However, Bitnami did exactly opposite, all steps to 'push a way' such kind of clients.

First, Bitnami disabled option to enable f' instances on WordPress (yes, it is possible to install it manually, but ... here is talk about policy, right?). Remaining solution was to use LAMP and modules. Now, actually that is not anymore option, despite your claims, as you @jloramas are also quite clear and logical with statement

I simply never get intent to judge Bitnami (or VmWare) business policy as that will be stupid. That's yours policies and no need to be explained and/or justified to nobody. BTW - maybe I will do it the same.

Here is obviously about simple dilemma - to be 'loyal' to Bitnami and keep with uncertainness (to be able to keep on with "ALWAYS FREE" solution) or to choose other solution. SO, I made my decision and no problem about it, right?

I didn't wrote that I will not keep to play around with Bitnami solutions (certainly, I will), but not in production.

P.S. - Maybe will be nice from you guys to explain specifically what reasons are behind the decision (visible also before VmWare) to not support programs like "ALWAYS FREE", but it is on you.

jloramas 2020-03-06 10:17:57 UTC #7

Hi @servicioexpreso,

Bitnami disabled option to enable f' instances on WordPress

From our experience, the average Wordpress installation can suffer performance issues on f1.micro instances, so we decided to disable this option from our launchpad. Obviously this has nothing to do against startups or small business, but to improve the Wordpress user experience.

Remaining solution was to use LAMP and modules

That's simply not true. As you already know, you can use the f1.micro launching the same image directly from the Google marketplace (we have not disabled that option), but you decided to go for the LAMP approach. That was your decision.

SO, I made my decision and no problem about it, right?

Right. I hope you find a service the fit better with your needs. Any case feel free to come back, as we will continue doing our best for all our users.

I didn't wrote that I will not keep to play around with Bitnami solutions (certainly, I will), but not in production.

I'm sorry but LAMP is not intended for production but for development, as you can read in its product description. I recommend you to go back to the Wordpress cloud image for your production sites.

Maybe will be nice from you guys to explain specifically what reasons are behind the decision (visible also before VmWare) to not support programs like "ALWAYS FREE", but it is on you.

We support always free programs, as you can use the alway free Google tier launching the Bitnami Wordpress image directly from the Google marketplace, but we prefer to favour a better user experience from our launchpad.
Also you can continue using modules by moving to XAMPP (which is also a Bitnami stack) and install any of the modules we certify on it. As in the LAMP case, remember that XAMPP is a development stack and not a production one.

Best regards,

Jose L. Oramas
Engineer Manager

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